We had to use 2x digital zoom on the XP38 to make it comparable with the standard 2.7x on the cheaper XQ50. Thanks for the screen shots Kirsch. With PIP, my Trail XQ38 scope is at 2.1x and my PIP is at 4.2x. He liked it so well that he ordered a Apex XQ 50 2.8 native . I really like the Sepia color scheme in my Apex XD50A as well as the red crosshairs. So if you have a target at 100 yds say, and increase mag to 2x on the XP (so it's now 3.2), it now looks very comparable to the XQ at 2.7. Just a minor correction, but I believe the specs on the HD19A are a 384 core and 25 micron. Native mag on the XP is 1.6, and it's 2.7 on the XQ. I don't have an xp yet. One of the posts asked for images up to 200 yards, so here they are, but this is from a. What I do have is a xd19a with 340 microbiometer, my buddy has an xq30f with a 384 microbiometer. It was just to show there are lots of options and the XQ may work well for some and not for others. It is also a fact, it looks way better through the scope than the pictures/videos on most thermals. During April this year night vision manufacturer, Pulsar launched an array of new thermal imaging equipment including HELION thermal handheld spotters and TRAIL thermal rifle scopes. My purpose was not to convince you that you don’t need a 640. Is 200 yards a chip-shot with the thermal, no but it isn't a stretch either. New Pulsars are hard to beat !!!! The Pulsar Thermion XM series of thermal scopes and the Axion series of Pulsar thermal monoculars (scanners) debuted in 2019 using a 12 micron, 320 x 240 thermal core. Night Master Trident, NEW LED Combinations NOW IN STOCK! I also have shot coyotes at 200 yards and some at further ranges with no issues with the Trail XQ38. Honestly, the Trail XQ50 might even be a better option at 2.8x and 5.6x (PIP). The XQ50 has a bigger germanium-coated lens compared with the XP38, giving it more standard magnification (2.7x vs 1.2x), good clarity and a longer detection range (1800m vs 1350m). Dark Nights are here... Get prepared with Night Master! I have a Trail 50xq and a Helion 38xp. September 29, 2020, GSCI Advanced Photonics, Image Intensified Night Vision . Read more about the TRAIL XQ50 (£2,950) and TRAIL XP38 (£3,750) thermal riflescopes. The XQ50 has a bigger germanium-coated lens compared with the XP38, giving it more standard magnification (2.7x vs 1.2x), good clarity and a longer detection range (1800m vs 1350m). I shot my first coyote with the 50xq Saturday at about 175-200 yards. You gain a little with the XP, but in my opinion it wasn't worth the extra $1200. It would be nice to see what it looks like at 2.8x to see if that is too close if they are coming in fast but my XQ38 is fine. I own the Trail XQ38 scope and the Helion XP38 monocular. Has Pulsar added sound to the videos yet in their firmware updates? I guess I've always had the blinders on thinking I need a 640 unit but also wanted a little higher native mag as well, hence the Zeus. So it’s want vs need. MODEL____PRICE___MAG____CORE_____FOV___DETECT, The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. It was clearly defined by light and dark shades. New this year is the Thermion XQ series which uses a 17 micron, 384×288 thermal core. There was no doubt it was a coyote. I scan with a pulsar hd 19a currently. Yes, but when a coyote is within shooting range, the XQ scope is fine. October 23, 2020, Night Master Trident, NEW LED Combinations NOW IN STOCK! The xp is noticeably clearer but the xq is all you need. However when we initially compared the two units, we really couldn’t see much difference in the clarity – perhaps you can with the images below? One question that did arise was, “As the TRAIL XP38 is over £750 more expensive than the TRAIL XQ50, how much better is it?”. Now of course it could have been a coyote looking dog (although we were in the boonies), but. Maybe if you had all close-range hunting the XP might be better because of the fov.. but I'm usually hunting fields so the FOV isn't that big of a deal. One question that did arise was, “As the TRAIL XP38 is over £750 more expensive than the TRAIL XQ50, how much better is it?”. Never seen through the XQ but have an XP and can tell you the image quality is phenomenal. The Thermion XM38 scopes have been discontinued, but the XM50 remains. I put together this list when I was looking at purchasing a thermal scope and monocular. We have tested all of the equipment and have been surprised with the results. I've been looking at the Zeus 640 75mm due to its 3x native mag and am waiting to see what the new FLIR 12 micron 640 scopes look like but am wondering for the coyotes if 640 is wise to get the most detail of the coyote. All Rights Reserved. You can see further & clearer with the xq30f. During April this year night vision manufacturer, Pulsar launched an array of new thermal imaging equipment including. I think for coyote hunting XQ will be fine . I just wish Pulsar had incorporated the color schemes in the Trail scopes like they did with the Helions, and that colored crosshairs were an option. One of the posts asked for images up to 200 yards, so here they are, but this is from a Pulsar Trail XQ38 and no comparison to same on an XP. The XP38 has a smaller lens but better microbolometer resolution, which is supposed to create a cleaner and crisper image. If there is that much difference between those two, what do you think the difference Will be like comparing a 384 with a 640. We have tested all of the equipment and have been surprised with the results. Does the Helion XP38 provide a better image than the Trail XQ38? when I zoom the XQ50 the picture stays pretty clear unlike my old Apex 38A that would get real grainy. One question that did arise was, “As the TRAIL XP38 is over £750 more expensive than the TRAIL XQ50, how much better is it?”. Also, Pulsar has said the newer firmware takes better video/pictures as these were mainly on older firmware. Do any of you have hunting video of the XP vs XQ units to help compare image quality? September 22, 2020. I will however say that uploaded videos on the computer are not near as clear as actually looking through the scope itself. Explore Trail Thermal Imaging Riflescopes TRAIL product range includes two lines of riflescopes Trail XQ38/XQ50 and Trail XP38/XP50. GSCI Advanced Photonics, Image Intensified Night Vision. I opted for the 640. my buddy has XP 50 and looked through my Apex XQ 50 . What I gathered when I was making my choice was this.. going to stick with the 50 versions to compare like sizes.. With the XP50 it will be clearer up close (within say 50 yards) than the XQ. My partner’s son came with and I let his son use the Helion so I didn’t see the difference. It comes down to FOV and native magnification. I'm angling at positive target ID but want to avoid that debate in this thread. Nice work on the photos Kirsch. © 2020 Night Master UK. Thanks for sharing that chart. I'll have to rent one of these xq units and see what I think! Do you think the TRAIL XP38 is worth £750 more than the XQ50? As a coyote calling thermal scope, I would prefer enough magnification to feel comfortable with the shot but not so far zoomed in, you can't find the animal. I believe this is pretty close to prices at most places and magnifications and FOVs. Pulsar Helion palyginimas (XP38, XP50, XQ38, XQ50) - YouTube Dark Nights are here... Get prepared with Night Master!